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Poster: | Scoop56 | Date: | Apr 13, 2012 5:00pm |
Forum: | web | Subject: | Why can site owners erase history? |
Why does the Wayback Machine allow website owners, as a matter of course, to pull material that had been broadcast publicly online from the public record and deny the future world infinitely valuable records of historic fact?
I can see some reasons why it might be appropriate to allow people to erase records on a case-by-case basis — a minor posting naked photographs on a publicly available web page, a page that hackers broke into and vandalized — but I cannot see any why people should be allowed to erase historic record, on a whim, as a matter of course, without giving good reason.
In most cases I have seen on this site, the only conceivable reason site owners have chosen against indexing is to hide misdeeds: to prevent customers from seeing how much prices have increased, or to hide a blog post expressing an opinion they'd like to deny advocating or camouflage a promise they don't feel like keeping.
Once you do something in public — and the Internet is public — you shouldn't get to deny doing it, assuming you were an adult in full possession of your faculties when you did it.
What on earth is the counter-argument?
Is there an Internet archive that keeps pages regardles of no-crawls?
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Poster: | jonc | Date: | Apr 14, 2012 9:12pm |
Forum: | web | Subject: | Re: Why can site owners erase history? |
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Poster: | Scoop56 | Date: | Apr 15, 2012 5:20pm |
Forum: | web | Subject: | Re: Why can site owners erase history? |
I'm not saying that you should lose all rights — like the right to stop others from selling material that you created — but I would think you'd lose the right to make it private again and prevent the IA from simply making a record of what existed.
Again, though, I'm not a copyright lawyer and I realize I cannot trust my gut on this. Do you know for a fact that copyright considerations explain why the IA allows no-indexing — is it written anywhere officially or by an IA official in another forum — or is this merely your supposition?
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Poster: | Manatha | Date: | Apr 30, 2012 6:30pm |
Forum: | web | Subject: | Re: Why can site owners erase history? |
I believe, that's why retaining anything they don't want you to could get you in trouble, because the site owner still has that intellectual right to the content.
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Poster: | hezzy.hill@yahoo.com | Date: | May 17, 2012 9:51am |
Forum: | web | Subject: | Re: Why can site owners erase history? |